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	<title>Comments on: Feeling Naked: A Tale of the Disappearing Facebook Fan Page</title>
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	<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/</link>
	<description>marketing &#38; communication consultant &#38; speaker for higher education &#38; small businesses</description>
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		<title>By: Kamranayaz</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamranayaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itu2019s amazing how much we talke for granted and really just how inaccessable the people at Facebook are, esepcially considering how much more of a tool it is becoming for so many people. This is a post that really provoked some thought on this that I think it may have taken me a while to get to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itu2019s amazing how much we talke for granted and really just how inaccessable the people at Facebook are, esepcially considering how much more of a tool it is becoming for so many people. This is a post that really provoked some thought on this that I think it may have taken me a while to get to.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamranayaz</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamranayaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s amazing how much we talke for granted and really just how inaccessable the people at Facebook are, esepcially considering how much more of a tool it is becoming for so many people. This is a post that really provoked some thought on this that I think it may have taken me a while to get to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s amazing how much we talke for granted and really just how inaccessable the people at Facebook are, esepcially considering how much more of a tool it is becoming for so many people. This is a post that really provoked some thought on this that I think it may have taken me a while to get to.</p>
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		<title>By: Why are social networks so unreliable&#8230; &#124; HTMLCenter Web Development Blog</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Why are social networks so unreliable&#8230; &#124; HTMLCenter Web Development Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from follower lists. Recently, Facebook seems to be unavailable almost as much as Twitter, and pages, fans and wall posts seem to be disappearing quite a bit, with no explanation as to why from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from follower lists. Recently, Facebook seems to be unavailable almost as much as Twitter, and pages, fans and wall posts seem to be disappearing quite a bit, with no explanation as to why from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Paltz seemed pretty happy with the features Facebook was already providing.

To the extent that what your company is offering is additional features geared toward schools, that&#039;s awesome, but not really on topic here.

Or are you suggesting that schools need to pay protection money to a well-connected third party like yourself to be treated fairly in the wild west that is Facebook?

If so, yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Paltz seemed pretty happy with the features Facebook was already providing.</p>
<p>To the extent that what your company is offering is additional features geared toward schools, that&#8217;s awesome, but not really on topic here.</p>
<p>Or are you suggesting that schools need to pay protection money to a well-connected third party like yourself to be treated fairly in the wild west that is Facebook?</p>
<p>If so, yuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Gilbert wrote what I think is a very insightful blog post back in June, that triwes to set out a set of best practices for how to use social media (facebook especially) without becoming dependent on their good graces (not to mention not requiring people to join them to interact with you... for students we often assume that they are 100% on Facebook, but that&#039;s certainly not true for alumni, faculty, or staff.)

Anyways, great article.

http://news.gilbert.org/OutsmartingFacebook

-- Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Gilbert wrote what I think is a very insightful blog post back in June, that triwes to set out a set of best practices for how to use social media (facebook especially) without becoming dependent on their good graces (not to mention not requiring people to join them to interact with you&#8230; for students we often assume that they are 100% on Facebook, but that&#8217;s certainly not true for alumni, faculty, or staff.)</p>
<p>Anyways, great article.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.gilbert.org/OutsmartingFacebook" rel="nofollow">http://news.gilbert.org/OutsmartingFacebook</a></p>
<p>&#8211; Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Social Networks: Should you go private or stick with Facebook? &#124; collegewebeditor.com</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Networks: Should you go private or stick with Facebook? &#124; collegewebeditor.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Karine Joly     A frightening and yet interesting thing happened to Rachel Reuben from SUNY New Paltz a few days ago. The Facebook page she created 2 years ago for her university disappeared. Rachel tried everything to get the page back as she explained in a post she wrote last week:Feeling Naked: A Tale of the Disappearing Facebook Fan Page. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Karine Joly     A frightening and yet interesting thing happened to Rachel Reuben from SUNY New Paltz a few days ago. The Facebook page she created 2 years ago for her university disappeared. Rachel tried everything to get the page back as she explained in a post she wrote last week:Feeling Naked: A Tale of the Disappearing Facebook Fan Page. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bohol</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>bohol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, you throw some serious questions on whether we should burn our midnight candle making Facebook another Internet behemoth after Google. Such incident of fan page disappearance seems very mysterious. And for Facebook not returning your inquiries on the disappearance, that is very unethical of them. This is the very reason some institutions have started to build their online community without relying on third-party service like Facebook. A community software like Dolphin or VBulletin(for a forum) is perhaps a better way to go if we are thinking of long-term investment and of course &quot;sustainability.&quot; We may not be paying Facebook but we have the right to exist if we don&#039;t violate their TOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, you throw some serious questions on whether we should burn our midnight candle making Facebook another Internet behemoth after Google. Such incident of fan page disappearance seems very mysterious. And for Facebook not returning your inquiries on the disappearance, that is very unethical of them. This is the very reason some institutions have started to build their online community without relying on third-party service like Facebook. A community software like Dolphin or VBulletin(for a forum) is perhaps a better way to go if we are thinking of long-term investment and of course &#8220;sustainability.&#8221; We may not be paying Facebook but we have the right to exist if we don&#8217;t violate their TOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Insights &#124; The Inigral Blog &#8211; Why Facebook Ignores Higher Ed</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Insights &#124; The Inigral Blog &#8211; Why Facebook Ignores Higher Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ruben seems to have hit a cord on EduGuru with an article questioning whether or not Universities should put a lot of eggs into the Facebook basket when [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christina Smith</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel-

Well-written post. I&#039;m sorry you had to go through that. Facebook and Twitter (and others) provide a great way to connect socially but they do fall short when it comes to gathering data and retaining control of your content/page. The same things that draw us to Facebook (the fact that it has so many users and that it&#039;s free)are ultimately what becomes its downside -- as you found out the hard way.

There are multiple alternatives to relying on a public social networking site for your membership and content management. You can build your own internal networking site with content management but this can be pricey. Or you can partner with a company who specializes in these sorts of a solution. Sometimes the answer that best fits is a combination like Kyle mentioned above using Facebook as a &quot;landing page&quot; to draw them into your university community. Some private communities even allow for connections back to public sites like Facebook through Wall postings and managing of multiple social networking profiles through your site.

Choosing a private online community does ensure data security, can provide ad revenue, features your branding and offers reporting and messaging features far beyond what the free software does. You can get an idea of what&#039;s possibe by visiting SUNY Cobleskill&#039;s alumni site:

http://cobyconnection.cobleskill.edu/

Good luck with whatever you decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel-</p>
<p>Well-written post. I&#8217;m sorry you had to go through that. Facebook and Twitter (and others) provide a great way to connect socially but they do fall short when it comes to gathering data and retaining control of your content/page. The same things that draw us to Facebook (the fact that it has so many users and that it&#8217;s free)are ultimately what becomes its downside &#8212; as you found out the hard way.</p>
<p>There are multiple alternatives to relying on a public social networking site for your membership and content management. You can build your own internal networking site with content management but this can be pricey. Or you can partner with a company who specializes in these sorts of a solution. Sometimes the answer that best fits is a combination like Kyle mentioned above using Facebook as a &#8220;landing page&#8221; to draw them into your university community. Some private communities even allow for connections back to public sites like Facebook through Wall postings and managing of multiple social networking profiles through your site.</p>
<p>Choosing a private online community does ensure data security, can provide ad revenue, features your branding and offers reporting and messaging features far beyond what the free software does. You can get an idea of what&#8217;s possibe by visiting SUNY Cobleskill&#8217;s alumni site:</p>
<p><a href="http://cobyconnection.cobleskill.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://cobyconnection.cobleskill.edu/</a></p>
<p>Good luck with whatever you decide.</p>
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		<title>By: LeRoy Lee</title>
		<link>http://rachelreuben.com/2009/10/suny-new-paltz-facebook-page-disappears/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>LeRoy Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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